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Playing around with Atlas and Google Maps

by Benjamin Nitschke 4. June 2006 01:17
I updated the Freifunk-Hannover website and added support for Google Maps. The users can now add, edit, remove and view all the Wifi-Nodes on a cool dynamic map.

I used Atlas to perform some update features and to implement Google Maps (which is just using Javascript and has no support for ASP.NET directly). Atlas (which is Microsofts way of using Ajax/web 2.0 technology) is really cool because you can plug it into any existing ASP.NET page without much work (just a simple dll and couple of new keywords).

This is the website I implemented for Freifunk-Hannover:

I'm also very amazed by the cool new features of Ajax/Atlas/web 2.0, but still it doesn't feel right to wait for the brower sometime. I can life with it when it is just mail, but I don't think the browser is ready for any calender, contact, instant messaging or games in the near future. I hate delays, even the cool Google Suggest Beta, which gives you a nice autocomplete feature for google searches, is in no way as useful as any autocomplete or intellisense on your desktop. The main reason is just the delay and it doesn't allow as many features as desktop applications do. Anyway, dynamic web stuff with Ajax or Atlas is still very cool. Working with Atlas is often much easier than with normal ASP.NET, which is a good reason to use it right now :-)

Atlas technology:

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6/4/2006 7:53:49 AM #

Hi,

if there is a delay by using Ajax, I would guess the problem lies with the connection speed or the speed of accessing a database(Unless there is a problem with delay by running an asynchrounius page, but that I never noticed).
I think the biggest problem with ajax is the two sided programming. client and server.
The logic of ajax is easier to understand then ATLAS itself. but atlas delivers cleaner code..
Maybe the best solution for the future would be a smart client. 1 programming language to deal with client and server side, just like in a desktop environment. microsoft is already heading that way with visual studio and asp.net. things are a lot more easy for the developer then working with regular asp. probably, the only company in the world that can really make a smart client more succesfull then regular browsers is microsoft. they have the means. I believe that something uniform is also very important. in the end, browsers are meant for communication. with this I mean that a certain amount of people needs to use this smart client in order for it to be a succes. why would developers create things for a smart client if only a handfull of people will use it or why use a smart client if it limits you to a certain amount of things you can do. Maybe a smart client that does everything that a browser does and more would be good(backwards comptability).
I guess we'll see. Internet explorer 7 is still in beta. who knows what will come next.

greets,

Erdem

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6/5/2006 2:44:04 PM #

Yap, you are definately right with that. And generally web development isn't as easy and comfortable as developing just a windows application, but with ASP.NET 2.0 and also with Atlas it is getting easier and easier. Developing a smart client may be useful in some situations, but very often you just want to display data (like with Google Maps), nothing is more useful to directly display this data without the hassle to install any extra program or addon.

Btw: About Internet Explorer Beta 7, seems like Google Maps has a lot of problems with it. I guess Ms and Google don't like each other very much right now ^^

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I updated the Freifunk-Hannover website and added support for Google Maps.  The users can now add, edit, remove and view all the Wifi-Nodes on a cool dynamic map.
I used Atlas to perform some update features and to implement Google Maps (which is just using Javascript and has no support for ASP.

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